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List folders first, files after by default #5995

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cyberduck opened this issue Jun 8, 2011 · 16 comments
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List folders first, files after by default #5995

cyberduck opened this issue Jun 8, 2011 · 16 comments
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a9a040b created the issue

Issue summary is self explanatory.

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@dkocher commented

Click the Filename column to sort alphabetically and then the Kind column to sort by file type.

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a9a040b commented

...right. Then I am changing this issue's scope. The new goal is to provide a default listing that users are used to in each operating system so that the program doesn't seem that "alien" on first use. How to achieve this wasn't obvious to me at all either (and I consider myself tech-savvy).

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@dkocher commented

Making this the default is bad because it essentially breaks selecting files and folders by typing the first few letters as the list is no more lexicographically sorted.

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@dkocher commented

We might want to introduce a preference.

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bb10 commented

It is actually lexicographically sorted, but in a way that folders come first. So if you type 'e' a few times it will first highlight the folders that start with 'e' and then it jumps to the files that start with 'e'. This is also how explorer behaves.

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93b39a9 commented

Unfortunately, when sorting by "Kind", you still can't jump to a file or folder by typing its first letters - so, if you are a Windows user, you have to choose between seeing the files and folders in the order you're used to, or being able to find them quickly.

I see that the last post here is 15 months old. Any plans to fix this soon?

It's a small feature, but it's a really big deal for me and I imagine for a lot of my fellow Windows users. Thanks.

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ff37dfc commented

+1 from me

@gitatmax
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Has there been any movement on this yet? I'd also love to enable listing folders first by default.

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SlyDeath commented Apr 15, 2022

+1 from me. Just give people a choice. Putting a checkbox is easier than using two sorts.

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a9a040b commented

...right. Then I am changing this issue's scope. The new goal is to provide a default listing that users are used to in each operating system so that the program doesn't seem that "alien" on first use. How to achieve this wasn't obvious to me at all either (and I consider myself tech-savvy).

MacOS finder however supports natively displaying folders on top of file lists by default: Finder Settings -> Advanced -> Keep folders on top

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a9a040b commented

...right. Then I am changing this issue's scope. The new goal is to provide a default listing that users are used to in each operating system so that the program doesn't seem that "alien" on first use. How to achieve this wasn't obvious to me at all either (and I consider myself tech-savvy).

MacOS finder however supports natively displaying folders on top of file lists by default: Finder Settings -> Advanced -> Keep folders on top

And what does the Cyberduck have to do with it?

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sorry, I will explain in more detail. since the goal is to "provide a default listing that users are used to in each operating system so that the program doesn't seem that "alien" on first use" I thought, using the setting for displaying the folders either on top or not in Cyberduck, could be retrieved from the used setting in a user profile.

defaults read com.apple.finder _FXSortFoldersFirst

this command displays the mentioned Finder setting for the user in boolean

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+1 for folders on top

Explanation: when browsing directory structure, I know if I search for a folder or for a file. Having folders on top and files on bottom of the list allows me to focus on relevant part of the list sorted according to my needs, while "the other kind" does not clog up the list. Take /etc of a Linux system as an example - quite a lot of folders and files. You might not know exact filename you search for, but you usually know what setting resides in a subfolder and what is stored in a file in /etc directly. Having folders and files separate is quite helpful when finding what you need to edit.

@dkocher dkocher added this to the 9.0 milestone Nov 3, 2022
@Talhazzers
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+1 from me.

@ALIENQuake
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I was trying to find an alternative to FileZilla. The Cyberduck was my first choice until I connected and saw this unusual and odd sorting. I'm glad that it's planned for 9.0 as this is a deal breaker for me. Please fix this.

@PhilippBuehlerOkeanos
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I would love to have that feature

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